Robertson took a no decision in his last start, one that saw him allow only 2 runs while scattering 10 hits over 7 innings. It was the first time this season he hadn’t allowed 4 or 5 runs.
The Tigers get to face a lefty in the form of Randy Johnson. Johnson has allowed quite a few hits this year, but is still fanning a batter an inning. Left handed batters have exactly 1 hit and 2 walks off of Johnson this year. So it’s probably a good idea that Curtis Granderson and Matt Joyce are out of the lineup. But with Carlos Guillen also getting the day off, the 3 spot looks empty with Edgar Renteria and his 633 OPS.
- Rodriguez, C
- Polanco, 2B
- Renteria, SS
- Ordonez, RF
- Cabrera, 1B
- Thames, LF
- Raburn, CF
- Inge, 3B
- Robertson, P
DET @ ARI, Sunday, May 18, 2008 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com
POSTGAME: Robertson looked dominant for a big chunk of this game, but in the end it was a typical Nate start with 5.2 innings and the customary 4 runs allowed. The only moment of the game where I can really fault him came in the 6th inning, where after an Ordonez error a third run scored. Following an intentional walk, an unglued Robertson walked Randy Johnson. Otherwise Nate pitched fine, but again it would have taken a shut out to even have a chance at a no decision.
In typical fashion the offense generated scoring chances early but did nothing with them. At least they got some doubles instead of the single-per-inning approach they took in Kansas City.
Last night it was Rodriguez who routinely killed scoring chances. Today it was Ordonez’s turn. In the first inning he ended a two-on, 1-out threat with a double play. In the 3rd it was a 2-on, 2-out situation ending in a full count tapper to the pitcher. He ended the day with a 1-on, 2-out, comebacker as well.
Game Time 4:10
Bilfer, that was a hilarious intro….well played sir.
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that backwards stuff got old after like 3 posts in the last game.
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i cant believe i would say this, but i hope we lose.
maybe it will stop the childish behavior here.
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Damn children with their backwards talking and their hip-hop music.
Why can’t we get a double from the leadoff guy. We always need these two out hits, which we seem to rarely get.
That was a nice at bat by Edgar. Let’s see if Magg’s can take a pitch…YES! He did!!
Nate looks great. He’s getting the ball over the plate. Skate, date, mate.
Jeff M.
Hey, it’s a leadoff double. Good Call.
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Is it completely out of the ? to sac bunt Miguel to third. Last night and today?
Once again no productive outs. Sad.
Put down your purse and swing, Brandon.
On the Dbacks call, they asked if Randy should walk Inge to get to Robertson. I started laughing my a$$ off.
Yeah, we got the lead off double but then CAN’T even get a ground ball to move him over let alone a hit. When we have runners on 1st and 2nd with less than two outs we get ground balls all day, which turn into double plays. Marcus Thames CANNOT strike out in that situation!
Man, this team is so frustrating. Batting average drops like a stone whenever we get runners in scoring position. These guys are absolute chokers.
That is funny! If Inge would just hit .250 he’d likely be back at 3rd and in the lineup regularly. He just simply can’t do it.
I feel like we are owning this team right now, but we have nothing to show for it. We may have to rely on a solo shot or two, but then again, Joyce is the only guy with any power right now and he’s sitting the pine.
God, here we go.
This just in: The Tigers are interested in acquiring Justin Upton to use him strictly as a pinch runner…
One out single. I bet we get a ground ball now.
Jeff. I need lotto numbers.
aahhhh we got the ground ball but fortunately not of the double play variety.
Here’s a novel thought: let’s string together the hits in the SAME damn inning.
I think winning the lottery would be a lot easier than figuring out the Tigers right now.
Winning the lottery has better odds than the Tigers getting hits with runners in scoring position. That’s sad.
Do you smell that? It’s Nate melting down in the 5th.
Classic Nate
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Alright. Jeff call for a Dback DP.
Nevermind.
Good job Nate! Throw Young the high cheese with the bases loaded. Let’s take away any chance of getting the ground ball.
Of course, when we want to see clutch hitting, just watch the opposition.
Sorry Brian, I wasn’t feeling it…
The Tigers won by mistake yesterday. Glad to see they are back at their totally inept hitting and pitching. Life is better when it is predictable!
Only two, big victory for Nate!
Well,
I guess it could have been worse. The BIG UNIT could have got a hit. Only 2 runs out of that I’ll take it.
Let’s see if Leyland can motivate the troops.
I enjoy listening to Mark Grace, but this other guy is just a butt-head.
Five innings in a row with men on 2nd or 3rd..no one scored. The AZ announcers have not even mentioned it………seems the Tigers play so bad it is not even worth talking about anymore.
Way to answer boys.
Man, they’re pounding the ball like Jimmy wanted them to.
I think they’ve gotta get to Johnson in the 7th or they might be toast. The unfortunate thing is that our pitcher is due up 3rd in the inning and I don’t think we want to take him out of the game just yet.
Okay, maybe we do want to take him out. No killer instinct on this team!
That was pathetic
With every loss, I’m becoming evermore resentful of this team. Sky-high expectations for this offense and we get this? Pathetic! They make the San Diego Padres look like an offensive dynamo.
Fire McClendon (sp?) now. What does it take to lose your job in the Tigers organization nowadays? A lineup of all-stars regressing into sucktitude? I guess not. I guess it’s perfectly fine if a batting coach actually makes our players worse. I’m sure it’s not all his fault, but I need someone to yell at. People get fired all the time when the unit they oversee doesn’t perform, even when they aren’t directly attributable to the result.
A clutch 2 out hit. So thats what they look like.
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As I said, NO KILLER INSTINCT!
This game is a carbon copy of so many this year. The starter pitches pretty good for 4 or 5 innings, but the offense hasn’t put up any runs. Then the starter has to try to stay perfect. It ain’t gonna happen.
Why in the world would JL, knowing they can’t let another run score, not bring in a fresh arm to overpower the Unit.
Can he pick up up the ball cleanly? Can anyone throw home without a cutoff man anymore?
If Matt Millen can keep his job, ANYBODY can
Well, that’e enough Tigerball for me for a while.
Gary Sheffield’s son is named Gary Jr.? I am shocked.
Bunt.
Is there much talk in the Detroit area media of the clubhouse falling apart? i.e. Pitchers blaming hitters, position players blaming pitchers, players blaming the coaches? I expect someone will be shown the door soon.
If there’s any finger pointing going on they can all point at each other because they’re bad in every facet of the game right now. Nobody on this team should be pointing fingers unless they’re looking in the mirror.
This offense flat out stinks. Like Sky said earlier. Five innings in row with runners on 2nd or 3rd and no runs. That is inexcusable. Where is all the production? I’m dazed and confused.
Grace just said Sheffield is one big weapon we won’t have in the ninth. HA
OK a positive comment. Pudge has had a fantastic series behind the plate.
I think this is all pretty much Inge’s fault. I mean, his inherent clutchiness hasn’t rubbed off AT ALL!
How Detroit has failed to capitalize on Inge’s Clutchiness (and what a stupid argument that is compared to the numerous problems with this team):
http://grittyandclutch.blogspot.com/2008/05/because-good-teams-form-voltron.html
This is beyond ridiculous. This thing needs to be blown up completely. I want to watch guys who want to PLAY. Show me Raburn, Thomas and Joyce. Bring up Larish and Clevlen. I’d rather watch those guys bust their ass and win 30 games then this bunch win 70 (which is about where they are headed, by the way). When the home plate ump goes out to start the game he yells PLAY BALL! He doesn’t yell WORK BALL!
Nate 4 runs. Who would have thunk it?
Can Magglio run to first base, please. And cut that hair.
This isn’t close to being Nate’s fault. We have had very good performances overall from the Rotation on this road trip. This is a lack of clutch hitting. I a way this reminds me of the under- performing White Sox in 06.
I might actually enjoy watching the Seattle series. We might see both teams be shutout through nine innings.
I would like to see the Tigers elect a Team Captain. Is the any precedent in the organization for this. The players need to take responsibility for their performance.
I think this would be a lovely evening for Mike to call Jim and tell him his services are no longer needed.
Unit had his best outing of the season today.
I just traded for Maggs in my fantasy league… I would say I’m a jinx, but he sucked before today. I drafted Miggy 6th overall, and gave up a fluke closer about to come back down to earth(percival) and a starter who aready has (cliff lee). They better turn it around. Sheff and Grandy did last year after I traded for Grandy… Thats all I got anymore.
wow, Gritty posted that EXACT thing on my blog …
Yeh, a team captain for the millionaire’s club. Uncle Jimmy would have non of that.
Yes this team is struggling to get clutch hits, but what is perhaps more inexplicable is a pretty sizable dropoff in batting average throughout the roster of regulars.
Player………………………….’08 Ba…’07 BA….Career BA
Rodriguez…………………….265 …….281 …….302
Cabrera ………………………271 …….339 …….310
Guillen ……………………….284 …….296 …….290
Polanco ………………………265 …….341 …….304
Renteria ……………………..255 …….332…….290
Granderson …………………235 …….302 …….277
Ordonez ……………………..315 …….363…….312
Sheffield………………………190 …….265…….294
Team ………………………….258 ……287
Team Scoring position…….240 …….311
So there you have it. We are having a complete roster slump where the batting average is down significantly across the board. Some are off from their ’08 BA more than others, but NOBODY is actually doing better. And it seams to me that all the hits that have disappeared are the ones in situations of men in scoring position.
One reason to be optimistic about them improving their offense is the sheer anomalistic nature of having multiple players underperforming. These guys can’t possibly keep this futility up, can they?
What does the length of Magglio’s hair have to do with anything?
WC Tiger – Dean Palmer, Brad Ausmus, and I believe Doug Brocail were tri-captains in 99 I believe. It didn’t help.
yak – Maggs had a bad game today, but I’m not sure why you think he’s sucked. His numbers are pretty much right in line with his career numbers. Expecting more would be ridiculous.
Magglio is not having a bad year at all, especially when you consider that nobody around him is hitting very consistently. It’s hard to be very productive when you are an island of hitting in a sea non-hitting.
I have nothing against Maggs, but his hair looks stupid. I say that having longish hair. I’m pretty there’s some middle ground between the Yankees no facial hair policy and Maggs looking like the bus driver from The Simpsons.
I think his hair looks fantastic! *swoons*
That’s right, BW. And btw, Derek Jeter is captain of the Yankees and they’re in last place. MLB having a captain is ridiculous, imo.
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Seriously, I’m with Chris. I hope those batting numbers are just a slump. I think alot of us have been hoping or waiting for the lineup wide slump to end (besides Maggs). I just hope it’s soon. I can’t take the abuse anymore from everyone here in Tampa. I’ll never quit wearing the old english D, but man we need a turn around. Here’s hoping we can get it rolling at home against the Mariners.
Maggs could be our Captain but no one would take him seriously with that stupid looking hair.
According to the recap of Sunday’s game, the Tigers went 1 for 20 with runners in scoring position against the dbacks(for the series). Oh yeah, Sheffield was 0-10 on the six game road trip dropping him to an awesome .189.
It’s taken me this long to be able to face today’s results.
I commented on the Team Captain concept the other day. The Yankees might be doing poorly this particular year but overall, I don’t think it’s hurt them.
Hmm. Here’s today’s Trivia question from my Tigers calendar: Who were the only two Detroit players to homer in the 2006 World Series?
Answer: Casey and Monroe, two each.
I’ll be at the games on Tuesday and Wednesday. Wish me luck –
Wow! 1-20 with men in scoring position! The math is easy. They hit a pathetic .050 BA with men in scoring position…….. Hmmmm… let’s see what 1-20 looks like:
CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE!
CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! HIT! CHOKE!
CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE!
CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE! CHOKE!
ERRRRRRR………….
I hate this team! I truly do. I’m beginning to feel the level of despondency usually reserved for the Lions when they have one of their usual awful teams. I guess the only thing to do is to root against them in hopes that humiliation will make changes happen, as I do for the Lions. And at this point, I want to see absolutely every member of this roster gone– every stinking one of them, with the acceptation of Raburn, Joyce, Santiago and Galarraga. Let’s rebuild a team around those guys along with minor league call-ups and see if they can’t do better.
For all of you who live in Detroit and are stuck with tickets to see this pathetic group of failures, I surely hope you start boo-ing them loudly and often at games. Please boo every one of the underperforming regulars when they come to bat. I’m so discusted with this group that I’m almost tempted to buy a ticket for next months game in San Diego and go down there just to boo them myself. But, I don’t think there will be enough despondent Tiger fans there to join in my chorus. So I don’t think its worth the time and expense. Bad baseball awaits me in San Diego otherwise.
By no means, should this group of mental retards be given anything but disrespect. Every one of these players needs to know how much they suck and how much we would all want to see them either run out of town or in opposing player uniforms.
“I’ll be at the games on Tuesday and Wednesday. Wish me luck”
Please cib, be sure to boo them loudly and let them know how much they suck dog crap.
This team isn’t deserving of your attendance otherwise.
For someone who hates this team, Chris, you sure do spend a lot of time complaining about them.
Billfer – You’re probably for free speech and all, but can you just flat-out ban Chris from ever posting here again?
Ho Hum
“For someone who hates this team, Chris, you sure do spend a lot of time complaining about them.”
Well yes. And we sure have a lot to complain about with this team, now don’t we? I read the line about this team going 1-20 batting with men in scoring position and then my disappointment turns to anger and then to downright hatred for these clowns.
I’m glad I skipped this series. But somehow I’m still stuck with the results.
This season has become boring in its frustrating sameness. It’s hard to even joke about it any more. I’ve been paying particular attention to Tigers hitting with runners on (my very own spreadsheet and everything!), in the hope that once in a while I’ll have something intelligent to say about it. But when this only tells you what you already know – Ordonez and Polanco are OK, everyone else either sucks or doesn’t play enough to matter – it becomes a very, very hollow exercise.
Something’s got to give, and will soon. But will that make things better? Hard tellin’.
Chris, I’m watching, reading, and hearing all the same things you are, yet I don’t hate a professional athlete for not living up to people’s expectations. Just relax a little bit. I’m not trying to come at you like I did earlier in a previous game post thread (and for that, I belatedly apologize — although I don’t think it affected you much but I still apologize for that) as it was just unnecessary for me to do.
That said, it’s not the end of the free world that they went 1-for-20 with runners on or whatever the number was. I love, love, love sports. Perhaps more than any extracurricular activity in my life, but I don’t like to get so wrapped up into them that it actually turns to anger (tough to do with Jim Leyland at the helm).
These multi -millionaire athletes deserve all the scorn Chris can heap upon them. If they were making 1% of their salary, it would be too much for how they’re playing. And then maybe Magglio could not afford “designer” hair and look more like a ballplayer.
ron – you’ve mastered grumpy-old-man. Magglio was making the same money last year with the same hair cut and he put up MVP numbers. Railing-on about his hair is, well, I don’t even know the words for it.
“with the acceptation”
LOL. Hey, Chris, I think the word you’re looking for there is “Exception”.
This season will surpass 2003 as The Worst season in Detroit Tigers history.
Sure, the Tigers probably won’t lose 119 games, but with the second highest payroll in MLB should they look this inept?
I hate to think how long we’ll look back at 2006 as our most recent “good times” as Tiger fans.
One great year in 2006.
One “okay” year in 2007.
Back to mediocrity in 2008 (and beyond?).
I don’t care for Hillary Clinton, but if the Tigers showed half of the fight and unwillingness to quit that she does we would be in first place.
The AL Central isn’t that tough – too bad the Tigers aren’t either.
Chris, I don’t boo my own team. I know you are not in Detroit so you don’t see the post-game interviews on FSN, but I do, and there is not one player on this team who doesn’t care about what’s going on and who doesn’t want more for the fans. There is something going on that I certainly can’t figure out; I am not stupid and I am a realist, but I am convinced that it’s not a matter of this team just not caring. They need to send in a sports psychologist but that’s another thread.
I can’t boo my own team; it’s physically impossible, I cannot make the sound leave my lips! They’ve been my team forever. Yeah, I’ve got good money invested in tickets, but I bought tickets before 2006 so that’s not a big deal. I sit in my seats and I put my blanket over my head, I scream “nooooo!!!!!!!” and make other signs of frustration, but if I boo my team then I’m a fair-weather fan and I belong in New York or Chicago. If I boo my team, I’m booing my childhood! Ernie Harwell’s voice coming from the car radio, Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich. I see Willie Horton at a restaurant nowadays, and I’m still starstruck. Driving out to Willow Run airfield to meet the team after a road trip, trying to get Kirk Gibson’s attention!! Nope, this year may be painfully disappointing and I may never figure out the reasons why, but this old gal does not boo the Olde English D.
Enough with all of the crossfire. This forum should be able to stay above that nonsense. Please don’t let the team’s poor play become a catalyst for treating each other poorly. Can we try to keep the critical commentary directed towards the players and mangement?
The off season deals for Renteria and Cabrera so far have been a major bust. Sheffield appears to be done. The starters have pitched well below their potential. The defense is worse than anyone could imagine. Questionable lineups and game decisions from the manager have exacerbated the poor play on the field. The bullpen really is the only unit playing up to expectations, which were pretty low to begin with. It’s been the perfect storm.
But it is also only a quarter of the way through the season. I still firmly believe that this group can turn it around with the talent on the roster. What’s needed most of all is some leadership on the field and in the clubhouse. Someone, anyone to step up make some plays and wake this team out of its slumber.
I like Magglio Ordonez’s hair.
I’d rather see the Tigers win as presently constituted. But they leave me no choice but to come up with one of those fantastic scenarios for turning it around. My turn.
Gazing into the crystal ball, I see:
Gary Sheffield, unwilling to go on the DL, asks for his release and gets it.
Jim Leyland resigns.
Carlos Guillen, Ivan Rodriguez, Nate Robertson, Todd Jones, Brandon Inge, Marcus Thames, Edgar Renteria, and Zach Miner are all traded. Jeff Larish, Clete Thomas, Brent Clevlen, and Mike Hollimon join the team. Galaragga takes Roberton’s place in the rotation.
The new lineup:
CF Granderson
2B Polanco
DH Cabrera
RF Ordonez
LF Joyce
3B Raburn
1B Larish
C New Guy
SS Santiago
The Tigers get mostly pitching and prospects in trade. A closer who can really shut the door, a lefty version of Miner before the Tigers wasted him, a AAA catching prospect to cover for the possibilty that Vance Wilson might not return, and a youngish starting defensive catcher whose hitting is something of an upgrade over Inge. They keep 13 pitchers pending the possible return of Wilson. There is enough flexibility – and youth – in the regular lineup to go with a bench of Thomas, Clevlen, and Hollimon.
Suddenly, the Tigers are interesting again. An 84-78 3rd place finish feels like a triumph rather than a disappointment. A team that came together (like 2006) rather than a team that looked better on paper than on the field gives us a lot of hope for 2009.
Back to reality. Trading all the guys I mentioned has got to be a pipe dream. Like I said, I’d rather have the team as is – including Leyland – perform as expected and turn it around big time. But if the Tigers are going to be as boring as they have been, by all means, tear it up, shake it up. Do whatever is necessary to get a TEAM of some sort together here.
“Chris, I don’t boo my own team. ”
High-five, cib!
galaragga stays in the rotation if im the coach.taking him out gives you a glimpse at why are season is a joke.inge is a third baseman guillen is not.but guillen “can” hit inge cannot.guillen to dh if his brain can stay in the game great.i love santiago,edgar you can get spot starts until we trade you away.save some money there.sheffield youve seen better days your painful to watch.thames and joyce play left.we need a guy like youkelousisisous from boston who plays with some passion to light a fire under our keisters maybe that get us playin like we wont tolerate losing.its a sad joke right now.we miss that spark that zumaya gave us for sure.we have a team thats doesnt seem to have the kind of guys that believe they can win.oh i forgot to say that pudge is only allowed to perform swinging bunts or just maybe dive in the plate a bit.he need to go gain some weight or something.hes flailing around like hes swating bees.
Well, I think everyone has a different philosophy about this, but I see blind faith toward your team really isn’t the answer for all of us. Whether it’s a sports franchise or a politician who has disappointed you I don’t think there is anything wrong with publicly expressing your displeasure, i.e. booing.
I wouldn’t boo the 2003 Tigers, they had no talent. I would boo the Lions of the last few years and direct some invective Millen’s way. I think it’s completely legitimate to boo a team that seems comatose and lacking in heart. (Yes, i know the ‘heart’ issue is radioactive on this site, but if any team has shown a lack of heart, it’s been this team).
It’s not even that I think booing is productive, I’m pretty sure few players would admit that booing makes them play harder, but I think it’s a completely legit activity, the equivalent of writing a letter of complaint to Hertz after you reserve a convertible and they give you a K car instead. I do think wholesale booing does put pressure on management to make a change and it could lead to Leyland’s departure. And that would be a positive.
H for heart; the team has none. H for hair; grumpy old man does not like girly boys, especially ones that cannot throw a baseball 100 ft. and is afraid to go near a wall.
Don’t upset the prima donnas with boos- they may self destruct.
Booing is exressing disappointment and you can only be disappointed in something or someone you care about.
So you care about the Yankees?
Cib, those guys you mentioned were real Tigers in name and spirit. I wouldn’t boo them either. These guys today couldn’t carry their jockstraps. I don’t care if Maggs won mvp. Gibson would have personally cut his hair.
David, I never boo the Yankees. Their own fans would drown me out.
Interesting choice, saying Gibson would have cut Maggs’ hair. Gibson was always the most scraggly looking guy on those Tiger teams, and I’m sure he would have looked moreso if Sparky would have allowed it.
He also probably would have let his hair grow if he would’ve had any.
As for booing and tossing the word “hate” around toward a baseball team. I have a suggestion. Take some time off when you feel something inside you as a fan snap. For me, it was when Verlander walked the unwalkable Tony Pena, Jr. on four pitches. I told my wife I was finished watching, and that I would watch again when I felt myself missing watching the games.
I’d recommend the same approach when you feel yourself hating the team or feeling the need to boo. Turn the TV off. Sell your tickets or just don’t go. I think about and write about baseball more than I probably should, and even I know you should set it aside for a while when it’s not fun anymore.
Exactly, I am incapable of directing vitriol at something I am watching by choice and for entertainment.
Matt you’re right. Sparky would have cut it.
This is fun. Everyone enjoys a train wreck.
Matt in Toledo –
You must be a communist. Kirk Gibson was surely another John Wayne – clean-cut, strong, silent. Why, I remember the 1984 Tigers. Clean-living young men who played the game not for money, but to glorify our great land. Yes, Kirk Gibson would clean up this town.
How can anyone be down on Maggs? Besides last year, and the year before, he’s been the best hitter on this team all year. I’m tempted to compare Gibson unfavorably with Ordonez and turn that haircut statement on its head, but I have to remember that it wasn’t Gibson calling Maggs a “pretty boy.”
I think sometimes we try to oversimplify things because we want answers. Just because someone ‘tried hard’ or ‘played hard’ in a non contract year in the past, that doesn’t preclude the possibility that this year the absence of financial motivation could be a contributing factor to displaying signs of apathy. Perhaps whatever non pecuniary motivation existed in previous years is gone, or at least has disipated somewhat. Maybe they’ve gotten a little burned out. Maybe the pennant race has lost a little of the appeal it had in previous years. Or perhaps not, but to rule out that possibility doesn’t make sense to me. The level of dedication, commitment, work ethic etc. is influenced by numerous factors. It can also be dynamic and ever changing depending on a ton of things going on in their life, the team, and yes, money can be a huge motivating factor.
Someone commented that the team cares and wants to win. Of course they do, everyone wants to win, but not everyone wants to do what it takes to win.
I don’t think its unrealistic to expect to see some tangible evidence that the team wants to win as much as Ryan Freel does, as much as Reed Johnson does, as much as Eric Byrnes does.
“This is fun. Everyone enjoys a train wreck.”
Everyone except the passengers.
Personally, I’m trying to make this season bearable by finding the positive. For instance…
– Sheffield still has 3 functioning limbs, that’s 75%!
– Guillen and Cabrera in a slump means they’re not pulling muscles on the base paths!
– Tigers losing a day game means my night is free for other activities, much appreciated by Mrs. G!
I think booing should be reserved for a few rare instances. For example, when there is absolutely no doubt someone is dogging it:
a) Someone doesn’t run on a ball in play because ‘they thought it was foul’. No excuse for that to happen, EVER.
b) You’re Ken Griffey and 8-10 times a year a stand up double/triple is turned into a single because you stand at the plate gawking at a fly ball because you incorrectly thought it was a HR. When that happens, the fans should boo until that player is removed from the lineup.
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Other instances are when its the ALCS against Oakland, game 4, its a tight game, and Grilli has walked 75 consecutive batters and hasn’t been removed, and you want to express your opinion to Leyland that Grilli should be removed from the game.
🙂
Magglio is a very special player. No one touches his hair unless he or his wife decide they want it cut. He’s quiet, loves his family and is probably one of the most pure hitters in MLB. The Big Tilde is all man. Let there be no doubt.
I don’t like booing players, even the ones that deserve it. Umpires on the other hand…
I proudly fueled my entire section into a boo chorus at Game 23 against the Twins last year with a deep, hearty howl after Leyland and Wil Ledezma got tossed on a bad obstruction call.
My kids couldn’t believe their ears and it was probably not setting the best example, but damn if it didn’t feel good!
Tbone – I was at that game! That may have been the worst call of the year last year, and one of the most infuriating ones I can recall witnessing live. The only time I felt an impulse to actually run on the field and argue myself(would never act on it of course). I actually felt the moral OBLIGATION to boo in that instance because I felt the umpire was willfully out of line. The only explanation I could come up with, is that some umpires think that they are the show, that people come to see them, so they sometimes like to make calls just to make a spectacle, either that, or something more nefarious was at work that afternoon, but I refuse to believe a sane individual would interpret that as obstruction. That call started an avalanche of misfortune that the Tigers would not recover from that day.
One could argue that Reds fans have a moral obligation to boo guys like Griffey, but that’s a topic for another day.